Question: Well, are the realisations of a scientist and a saadhak (ascetic practitioner) similar? How were the ancient saadhaks and sages of our country? Were they essentially the same scientists as we know today?
Shri Shri Thakur: The realisation of a scientist comes through observation, the realisation of a saadhak also comes through observation.
However, a scientist goes about analysing matter, whereas a saadhak is
always in search for the cause behind it. This results in a difference
of perception between them. A saadhak develops his perception through sensation, on the other hand, a scientist's perception comes through particular sense-organs – along with inference. If a scientist develops similar attitude then he can become a saadhak.
Question: What is this attitude of a saadhak?
Shri Shri Thakur: If a scientist becomes a researchman and a saadhak, befitting the age, then all the visions which come in front of him, come through sensation. Now if there be the attitude to materialise these visions physically through apt research, then only there develops a harmony between observation through sensation and observation through analysis – through which the perfect sensation of things can be acquired.1
The attitude of a saadhak verily means that he wants to analyse his
complexes to find out the root cause and since these complexes come out
through our interactions with surroundings, that brings about his deep
affinity towards the `cause'.2
Foot notes:
1 – "There
is a science of sciences, that is, a universal science, which contains
in itself all other sciences, and from which, as being parts
thereof,
they can be resolved into this science or that. Such a science is not
acquired by learning; it is connate, being especially connate in souls
which are pure intelligences….. From this science the soul at once sees
the intrinsic nature of all things set before it; sees namely, whether
they are good or evil, and gives assent or opposition according to
their nature. Unless the soul were furnished with such a science, it
could never flow into our thoughts and infuse them, as it were, with the
power of understanding and expressing higher things; nor could it
construct all its organic forms in conformity with the in most and most
secret laws of mechanics, physics, chemistry, etc. Therefore, the fact
that there is such a science cannot be denied." ¯ `RATIONAL PSYCHOLOGY' by Emanuel Swedenborg
"Before
Pythagoras's time, there had been natural philosophers on the one hand,
and moral philosophers on the other; Pythagoras included in a vast
synthesis, morality, science and religion. This synthesis is nothing
else than the esoteric doctrine, whose full glory I have endeavoured to
reveal in the very basis of Pythagorean initiation. The philosopher of
Croton was not the inventor but the light-bearing arranger of these
fundamental truths, in the scientific order of things. Those
who have followed the master up to this point will have seen that at
the basis of the doctrine there shines the sun of the one Truth.
Scattered rays may be discovered in philosophies and religions, but here
is their centre. What must be done to attain thereto? Observation and
reasoning are not sufficient. In addition to and above all else is
intuition. Pythagoras was an adept and an initiate of the highest order.
His was the direct vision of the spirit, his was the key to the occult
sciences and the spiritual world. It was from the primal fount of Truth
that he drew his supplies. And as he joined to these transcendent
faculties of an intellectual and spiritualized soul, a careful and
minute observation of physical nature and a masterly classification of
ideas by the aid of his lofty reason, no one could have been better
equipped than himself to build up the edifice of the knowledge of the
Cosmos.
In
truth this edifice was never destroyed. Plato, who took from Pythagoras
the whole of his metaphysics, had a complete idea thereof, though he
unfolded it with less clearness and precision. The Alexandrine school
occupied the upper storeys of the edifice, whilst modern science has
taken the
ground-floor
and strengthened its foundations. Numerous philosophical schools and
mystical or religious sects have inhabited its many chambers. No
philosophy, however, has yet embraced the whole of it. It is this whole I
have endeavoured to reveal here in all its harmony and unity." `Pythagoras and the Delphic Mysteries' by Ednard Schure
2 – "Einstein
talks about the development of our faculties of perception as science
goes on. He says scientists will arise who will have a much keener
perception than the scientists of today. They will also have more
delicate instruments. But the point is that what we need to develop are
the perceptive faculties themselves. It may be that a race of scientists
trained in the laboratory will be eventually to perceive the profound
and manifold operation of causation in nature, just as the great musical
genius perceives inner harmonies which Philistine cannot dream of. The
development of the powers of perception therefore is one of the main
tasks we have to meet. That seems to be Einstein's idea." ¯ Marx Planck
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